Mahavishnu Orchestra.

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[peter c]

I AGREE!

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[got_a_matchgrip]

Originally posted by Paul Newbury:
...The depth of tone he manages to get from his toms strikes me. It really stands out. He play very loudly but also has a very delicate touch - which I admire. He's been an inspiration for years.

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Originally posted by peter c:
I AGREE!

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Also, I believe Neil took some pointers from Boomer's toms sound [BC was 1 of his quoted influences...pls don't debate this in relation to his playing! [img]wink.gif[/img] - but you can hear it in some of the tom rolls, AWA Giles, Barlow, & Boz; AWA a bit in the tight snare crack]...I've long & immensely dug both of their TS', esp a great sound since "in the day" they were primarily raw & very little if any FX on there.

For NP this would mean primarily from Hemispheres through Moving Pictures, altho you could also prob go a little bit on either side of those, b4 & aft [2112, Farewell TKs; Signals, Grace UP]. But mostly the Tama days [AFTKs & Hem were Slingerland, i believe.]

But NP has always had a great TS since the Tama days AW [the closed Ludwigs ]...

Great tom sounds. & Alex van Halen used to say he also really dug NP's TS.

Both BC & NP [awa AVH, Giles, Barlow, Bruford, Morgenstein, Lenny, SSmith, & Boz] were heavy influences on me in my formative yrs AWA well after... [img]cool.gif[/img]

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[Riddim]

From the sound of them, and the photos on the back of the album, it was coated Ambassadors on the walnut Gretsch kit.

I've always had a thing for that sound. Crack and warmth. To my ears, that's the Gretsch sound.

[five eight]

Also no double bass on 'Inner Mounting Flame.' That came with the Fibes set and 'Birds of Fire.' A stretched 12-minute live version of 'You Know You Know' can be found on a 1972 Mahavishnu show Columbia Records recorded in Cleveland, but never released.

[Andy Edwards]

...which is mind blowing!

Hi Five! how are you my friend...thanks again for that.

Billy is my favorite drummer, the reason I play.
I did a gig on the same bill a few years back and I was so in awe I couldn't pluck up the courage to talk to him which I really regret.

I really beleive he changed the face of drumming, as much as Tony and Steve Gadd (if not more)but he doesn't get the accolades like those guys.

[Gary Husband]

Originally posted by Andy Edwards:
...which is mind blowing!

I really beleive he changed the face of drumming, as much as Tony and Steve Gadd (if not more)but he doesn't get the accolades like those guys.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I second that. Billy was nothing short of a monumental influence and inspiration to me, which, I imagine has always been fairly evident inside my playing. I've been an avid collector of all the bootlegs I can find over the years too. Billy .... well really I think they were just one of the greatest bands of all time, period!

BTW, anybody interested in some alternative approaches to some Mahavishnu Orchestra music I'll be releasing an album I just made on Alternity Records next spring entitled "A Meeting Of Spirits * interpretations Of The Music Of John McLaughlin". It's predominantly piano but there's a fair amount of "in piano" drums within the pieces too. What fun I had!!

Great thread.

GH

[benrand]

People say Billy doesn't groove or has a poor feel, I think his feel is incredible.

What really blew my mind, still does, is how he could come up with those crazy wild parts, I don't think anyone was playing anything like what he was playing at the time. But his beats and fills are soooo deep, like peeling the layers of an onion...

[Shawn40]

Billy grooves HARD !!!
What great musician he is.

Yeah I think me too that he has changed the face of the drumming when he arrived in the business.
He deserves so more credits for what he done.

He also wrote some incredible theme, like "Red Baron", "Stratus"...
Billy Cobham, a very accomplished musician like we all should be.

Peace.

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[benrand]

I've been getting into Lenny White a lot recently. Another well-rounded musician. I love his themes, and his drumming.

I have a DVD of RTF and he didn't really hit all that hard, thought he was a heavier player from his huge sound, but he really keeps the sticks down.

Love his playing.